I oftentimes hear people say something to the effect of, “I’ve explored terrain theory, but I just don’t believe it.”The Way Forward with Alec Zeck is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
Hi Alex, I do follow the terrain model and have done for nearly 3 years now, since I started looking into it. I also follow Jeff Green, not to be awkward, but because I stumbled across the No Virus team and Jeff at the same time. Its a shame their is so much beef between both camps as I feel you have so much more in common than that which divides. I'm not blaming anyone and don't know the full depth of what's been said between the camps. To me, in the time we are in, the fight must be against the contagion lie, which you both both seem to agree on.
As someone who is not completely wedded to anything except perhaps informed consent, ability to seek out other opinions, and choose for myself, please explain reasons for how a family experiences the same very specific symptoms in a short amount of time, and the same specific sickness appears to be "spread" to others in close contact. Also, isn't it possible to believe in both germs and the terrain model? I'm open-minded, but there's a difference between being brought into a cage and born into a cage, so a little slack and patience -knowing each person has varied time available to dedicate to the topic when there are many issues to address these days - would be appreciated. Also, how similar is this question of whether viruses exist to the question of whether electrons exist?
I find all these mentioned things to be SO EXCITING. I wanna go and study them, but right now I yam fighting to stay/get employed. Oh, virus, where is thy teef? I forgot, they ain't no teef, ha har harf!
This topic is covered by various of the No virus / contagion educators.
To answer this you would need to review each situation to look at possible environmental causes: food, diet, season change, chemical/ poison exposure , emf exposure, stress levels etc.
Observing people getting sick at the same time is an epidemiological observation and not evidence that it was caused by a contagion.
Thank you for your response. I am not negating at all the presence of the other factors you mention.
Am I correct in saying that the "no contagion" community believes people cannot pass on things to each other, for example: protein shedding or bacterial infection? Or, is this discussion limited to "no virus" alone?
Spreading is not the same as contagion. Butter, ideas, fashion trends, hearsay, emotions, ideologies, feelings, information, electromagnetics fields all spread - but no 'viruses' or bacteria are involved.
If disease is caused by a combination of environmental stressors, state of mind, emotions, ideas (information), beliefs etc then we would EXPECT disease to spread and / or occur simultaneously in the same area.
The problem is the automatic association between 'spreading' (or occurring simultaneously) and contagion (germ theory). Spreading and contagion are not synonyms.
People tend to be HEALTHY together. Being around healthy people tends to push you towards a state of good health. Copying the mindset and lifestyles of healthy people tends to promote health. Sharing good health advice tends to provoke an 'outbreak' of good health among those exposed to this information. Times of plenty (varied diet, good nutrition etc) with a lack of natural disasters (comet impacts, volcanoes, earthquakes etc) also promotes good health for all.
These are just some of the ways that good health spreads. But none of them involve contagion. There are hundreds of ways good health is spread. And there are hundreds of ways disease is spread. In every case the mechanism's can be broken down to a spread of information and energy (either life sustaining or life destroying).
When you actually dive into the terrain model you realise it is actually the germ theorists and their obsession with contagion who deny those hundreds of mechanisms for the spread of disease. The contagion superstition is itself a way to 'block' all of those other mechanisms of spreading from being considered - especially environmental factors (industrial pollution) that would point the finger of blame at Big Industry for most of of history's disease epidemics (from DDT to EMF).
With the question of time, there are so many nonsensical pieces being pushed forward around contagion right now. That maybe instead of having to believe anything just notice what makes sense. I was trying to read a piece of Mike Stone's recently where he covers what is being pushed forward around a healthy asymptomatic person being a carrier of disease. It was so utterly absurd it put my brain in a twist. If these ideas are readily accepted by most 'we' will be prey for any agenda of disease to push forward an intervention.
Which causes us to not look at the pieces that are actually of issue. What has changed in our environment, toxins we are exposed to, increased levels of radiation etc. etc.
It also causes us, at times, to fear our bodies (a piece that is pushed forward in many ways). And it causes us to treat the disease with interventions that are actually at the root of what is harming us.
You don't need to be a deep diver to understand this.
It doesn't even need to be an intellectual exercise. More of a deep listening to one's own body.
I think the conversation is unnecessarily complicated.
I also think the amount of fear being pushed forward, from every direction, is what is hard to digest, quite literally.
The 'germ' idea promoters have an inconvenient fact - the masses who have 'germs' inside them but don't get sick. Asymptomatic masses was a feature of 'Covid'. OK, not an inconvenient fact from the angle of case numbers as a fear tactic (enabled by the testing sham). Nether-the-less , will 'germ' promoters have to talk about the terrain model as explaining the asymptomatic 'pandemic' !
or very simply, if either adequate Vitamin D, or a Whole Foods Plant-Based diet reduce the risk of moderate to severe Covid outcomes (83% and 80% risk reduction respectively), that means nutrition status is a major determinant. The terrain... etc.
I can’t believe you put Emoto in the same sentence as Hillman. He lied about his education and results. He was on to something but never proved anything.
65% of the sources listed read by me previously and all are plausible. I am not yet full Bailey but open minded. Meanwhile, I identify as a cockroach immune or resistant to whatever filth I expose my terrain to. Not dead yet, will be one day.
Hi Alec, the link below is the latest statement from David Martin who once again is not clarifying whether the gain of function 'bio-weapon' is the jab or a lab leak virus.... me thinks this is deliberate obfuscation.
"And you know about the Perth Group and the true history of HIV/AIDS."
The Perth group's HIV denialism is responsible for the deaths of many, many thousands of people in South Africa. They posit that the cause of AIDS is changes in the cellular redox mechanisms of the body in response to exposure to oxidants - especially the presence of semen in the anus. This is a frankly ridiculous claim because men have been having anal sex with each other since humanity came into being and they only started dying en masse within the past few decades.
From the book 'Queer Identities and Politics in Germany':
"One author described Hamburg in 1897 as 'the German city most troubled by Uranians,' estimating that every fourth man who walked along the main shopping street of the city, the Jungfernstieg, was gay and another sixth was bisexual.97"
Where were the piles of gay men in Hamburg dead from AIDS?
Interesting to not believe in terrain having an effect upon us? What about a fish living in a fishbowl of dirty water (that terrain for the fish)? You do not think that dirty water has an effect on the health of the fish? Not sure what you mean by terrain theory....? The terrain to me definitely has a part to play in many situations in life...not only in our own body with health!
Hi Alex, I do follow the terrain model and have done for nearly 3 years now, since I started looking into it. I also follow Jeff Green, not to be awkward, but because I stumbled across the No Virus team and Jeff at the same time. Its a shame their is so much beef between both camps as I feel you have so much more in common than that which divides. I'm not blaming anyone and don't know the full depth of what's been said between the camps. To me, in the time we are in, the fight must be against the contagion lie, which you both both seem to agree on.
As someone who is not completely wedded to anything except perhaps informed consent, ability to seek out other opinions, and choose for myself, please explain reasons for how a family experiences the same very specific symptoms in a short amount of time, and the same specific sickness appears to be "spread" to others in close contact. Also, isn't it possible to believe in both germs and the terrain model? I'm open-minded, but there's a difference between being brought into a cage and born into a cage, so a little slack and patience -knowing each person has varied time available to dedicate to the topic when there are many issues to address these days - would be appreciated. Also, how similar is this question of whether viruses exist to the question of whether electrons exist?
We cover this extensively during TheEndofCovid.com in multiple sessions:
COVID psychosomatics, what if my body is brilliant?, beyond contagion dogma, German new medicine, the human biofield, the mystery of water
I find all these mentioned things to be SO EXCITING. I wanna go and study them, but right now I yam fighting to stay/get employed. Oh, virus, where is thy teef? I forgot, they ain't no teef, ha har harf!
xo
This topic is covered by various of the No virus / contagion educators.
To answer this you would need to review each situation to look at possible environmental causes: food, diet, season change, chemical/ poison exposure , emf exposure, stress levels etc.
Observing people getting sick at the same time is an epidemiological observation and not evidence that it was caused by a contagion.
Thank you for your response. I am not negating at all the presence of the other factors you mention.
Am I correct in saying that the "no contagion" community believes people cannot pass on things to each other, for example: protein shedding or bacterial infection? Or, is this discussion limited to "no virus" alone?
Of course such thing may be possible and has yet to be proven in any studies.
Spreading is not the same as contagion. Butter, ideas, fashion trends, hearsay, emotions, ideologies, feelings, information, electromagnetics fields all spread - but no 'viruses' or bacteria are involved.
If disease is caused by a combination of environmental stressors, state of mind, emotions, ideas (information), beliefs etc then we would EXPECT disease to spread and / or occur simultaneously in the same area.
The problem is the automatic association between 'spreading' (or occurring simultaneously) and contagion (germ theory). Spreading and contagion are not synonyms.
People tend to be HEALTHY together. Being around healthy people tends to push you towards a state of good health. Copying the mindset and lifestyles of healthy people tends to promote health. Sharing good health advice tends to provoke an 'outbreak' of good health among those exposed to this information. Times of plenty (varied diet, good nutrition etc) with a lack of natural disasters (comet impacts, volcanoes, earthquakes etc) also promotes good health for all.
These are just some of the ways that good health spreads. But none of them involve contagion. There are hundreds of ways good health is spread. And there are hundreds of ways disease is spread. In every case the mechanism's can be broken down to a spread of information and energy (either life sustaining or life destroying).
When you actually dive into the terrain model you realise it is actually the germ theorists and their obsession with contagion who deny those hundreds of mechanisms for the spread of disease. The contagion superstition is itself a way to 'block' all of those other mechanisms of spreading from being considered - especially environmental factors (industrial pollution) that would point the finger of blame at Big Industry for most of of history's disease epidemics (from DDT to EMF).
Thank you for your response.
I agree with similar household characteristics, for example, I am not even sure if anyone in my four-person household ever had covid or ever will. - https://leemuller.substack.com/p/did-you-avoid-getting-covid-asks
Has the null hypothesis - viruses do not exist - ever been proven?
With the question of time, there are so many nonsensical pieces being pushed forward around contagion right now. That maybe instead of having to believe anything just notice what makes sense. I was trying to read a piece of Mike Stone's recently where he covers what is being pushed forward around a healthy asymptomatic person being a carrier of disease. It was so utterly absurd it put my brain in a twist. If these ideas are readily accepted by most 'we' will be prey for any agenda of disease to push forward an intervention.
Which causes us to not look at the pieces that are actually of issue. What has changed in our environment, toxins we are exposed to, increased levels of radiation etc. etc.
It also causes us, at times, to fear our bodies (a piece that is pushed forward in many ways). And it causes us to treat the disease with interventions that are actually at the root of what is harming us.
You don't need to be a deep diver to understand this.
It doesn't even need to be an intellectual exercise. More of a deep listening to one's own body.
I think the conversation is unnecessarily complicated.
I also think the amount of fear being pushed forward, from every direction, is what is hard to digest, quite literally.
The terrainium reflects that which inhabits the cranium.
.
I Am Going To
Trust My Gut
On This One.
.
The 'germ' idea promoters have an inconvenient fact - the masses who have 'germs' inside them but don't get sick. Asymptomatic masses was a feature of 'Covid'. OK, not an inconvenient fact from the angle of case numbers as a fear tactic (enabled by the testing sham). Nether-the-less , will 'germ' promoters have to talk about the terrain model as explaining the asymptomatic 'pandemic' !
or very simply, if either adequate Vitamin D, or a Whole Foods Plant-Based diet reduce the risk of moderate to severe Covid outcomes (83% and 80% risk reduction respectively), that means nutrition status is a major determinant. The terrain... etc.
“Covid outcomes” ? What is COVID?
Nail-o-rama, Alec.
You rock, rock, rock, and fangks very mush, lub ya.
Keep it up! Woof!
I can’t believe you put Emoto in the same sentence as Hillman. He lied about his education and results. He was on to something but never proved anything.
65% of the sources listed read by me previously and all are plausible. I am not yet full Bailey but open minded. Meanwhile, I identify as a cockroach immune or resistant to whatever filth I expose my terrain to. Not dead yet, will be one day.
Thank you
Well said Alec.
Hi Alec, the link below is the latest statement from David Martin who once again is not clarifying whether the gain of function 'bio-weapon' is the jab or a lab leak virus.... me thinks this is deliberate obfuscation.
https://plandemicseries.com/davidmartin/
"And you know about the Perth Group and the true history of HIV/AIDS."
The Perth group's HIV denialism is responsible for the deaths of many, many thousands of people in South Africa. They posit that the cause of AIDS is changes in the cellular redox mechanisms of the body in response to exposure to oxidants - especially the presence of semen in the anus. This is a frankly ridiculous claim because men have been having anal sex with each other since humanity came into being and they only started dying en masse within the past few decades.
From the book 'Queer Identities and Politics in Germany':
"One author described Hamburg in 1897 as 'the German city most troubled by Uranians,' estimating that every fourth man who walked along the main shopping street of the city, the Jungfernstieg, was gay and another sixth was bisexual.97"
Where were the piles of gay men in Hamburg dead from AIDS?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8841809/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC430241/pdf/pnas00034-0281.pdf images should look familiar
Interesting to not believe in terrain having an effect upon us? What about a fish living in a fishbowl of dirty water (that terrain for the fish)? You do not think that dirty water has an effect on the health of the fish? Not sure what you mean by terrain theory....? The terrain to me definitely has a part to play in many situations in life...not only in our own body with health!