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Jordan Grant's avatar

Well written, my friend. This issue is quite simple, and the scientific method is quite straightforward (and something most people understand at even a basic level).

Sadly, Kirsch isn't alone in his conception of "science" - this notion that someone can just make up a fairy tale hypothesis, and as long as it's accepted via consensus, it remains "true" until someone comes along with a BETTER fairy tale.

None of that has anything to do with actual science (which is a method). A hypothesis itself must be based on reality. Your presumed cause MUST EXIST.

This isn't hard, yet it's a fallacy committed by many.

If Kirsch, or anyone else, claims that "this thing is causing that thing", then simply show where the "this thing" was first identified to exist in reality (not the mind, not as an effect in a lab), and THEN show where said entity was proven to cause "Y" disease. Just show it. Everything else is a red herring.

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D. Alec Zeck......I have offered a conversation between Steve Kirsch and Poornima Wagh on several occasions. He finally contacted her and then lied that she never responded to him. I explained that Dr. Wagh was currently involved in 2 major projects and if she did not respond to his email as promptly as he expects that she assured me she would contact him as soon as she had these projects tied up which would be as of August 28th. She called him 3 times already and as of today (8-25-22) Poornima has not gotten a return phone call. Now I understand Steve is out of the country but if he can sling insults because someone didn’t drop everything they were doing and respond to him then I can say the same about him. I believe Steve is hesitant to speak with her because she has done the analysis using the gold standard not mixing up a cocktail and then saying they isolated a virus. If you or anyone is interested in speaking with her just let me know. If you do not know her back story....she has a PhD in virology and a PhD in immunology (she also has a Masters in Economics and Finance). The lab she worked in was given a $1.5 million NIH grant and was asked to isolate SARS COV2. She refused at first and was convinced to participate. The samples (using the gold standard of isolation, purification and causation (using Koch’s Postulates) they found NO VIRUS. The analysis was done 2 more times with the same result. They reached out to about 100 Universities and requested they provide an analysis using the same process. 6 replied and they too found NO VIRUS. The findings were shared with the CDC on a brief 30 minute ZOOM meeting with only a small group. Then there was a 2.5 hour ZOOM with Robert Redfield and a very large number of participants. Poornima shared their results. Redfield stated that he did not care what they found they would report that they isolated the SARS COV2 or the lab would be shut down. Poornima refused to lie and of course her lab was raided by the FBI and shut down. She has been unable to work since then and no one will publish their research paper. The FBI also went to her home......she said they were very polite but basically said she needs to keep quiet. She has only recently been speaking out. She had 2 excellent interviews with Dr. Lee Merritt and she will be on a ZOOM conference out of Malaysia on Aug. 28th with Dr. Reiner Fuellmich. She also just finished an interview in which she shared the results of a international team she is working with on analyzing the ingredients in the COVID gene therapy.

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